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Why Avoiding Hard Conversations Is Costing Your School with Sage Hobbs

From Better Leaders Better Schools · Hosted by Daniel Bauer

2026-05-17·00:36:40

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In this episode of Better Leaders Better Schools: Her career started in Philadelphia public schools in the 90s, full of idealism and a master's in counseling psychology. A decade later, she was coaching executives in global corporations. Now Sage Hobbs coaches school principals and superintendents on the skill that drives everything else — the ability to have conversations that actually matter.

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Her career started in Philadelphia public schools in the 90s, full of idealism and a master's in counseling psychology. A decade later, she was coaching executives in global corporations. Now Sage Hobbs coaches school principals and superintendents on the skill that drives everything else — the ability to have conversations that actually matter. She is the author of Naked Communication: Courageously Create the Relationships You Really Want and the host of the Principal Pep Talks podcast. School leadership research points to strategy, curriculum, data, and policy as the levers that move outcomes. Sage Hobbs will tell you those are all downstream of something simpler: the conversations principals are avoiding. If you've ever softened a message that needed to land hard, or left a difficult conversation for "another time" that never came, this episode is the diagnosis. 🤩 What You'll Learn Why certainty is confused with competence — and what that costs you as a leader. How hard conversations drive change in ways checklists and management systems never can. What "lead with curiosity" actually looks like when a parent is angry or a teacher is underperforming. Why schools that prioritize...